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10-09-2007, 19:21
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Admin password?
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How often will I use my Admins password when I am building and tuning the site/forum etc once it is up and running?
Spookily short that one?! 
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10-09-2007, 21:10
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This is like "how often will I need to open up the bonnete (engine) of my car once I start driving?"
I do not know which admin password you're talking about and what kind of an account have you bought. For maintaining a website hosting content idealy FTP username and password is used quite frequently and for database management you need access using the Cpanel password. To create domains and hosting, you often would need the admin password to WHM as ofen as you get a new order.
That's all I can think.
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10-09-2007, 21:17
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This is like "how often will I need to open up the bonnete (engine) of my car once I start driving?"
I do not know which admin password you're talking about and what kind of an account have you bought. For maintaining a website hosting content idealy FTP username and password is used quite frequently and for database management you need access using the Cpanel password. To create domains and hosting, you often would need the admin password to WHM as often as you get a new order.
That's all I can think.
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You need to Calm down IJ
Mr. Ed is a senior person and new to this part of online Industry, he is looking to improve his technical knowledge so we need to answer his questions accordingly.
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10-09-2007, 21:19
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Hi !!!
How often will I use my Admins password when I am building and tuning the site/forum etc once it is up and running?
Spookily short that one?! 
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If your website hosting becomes popular in less time then you may need Admin login details for your website hosting as well as your forum on daily basis. If there's nothing to be modified on website hosting nor you get many posts on the forum then you may not need to login in Admin section of forum or your website hosting
On our forum we have someone logged in as Moderator or Administrator 24 x7. Our Developers make frequent changes on main website hosting so they login using FTP information daily.
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10-09-2007, 21:36
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Hey I am as cool as the moon, about to goto sleep to be honest. just that was in a bit hurry so thought of quicky giving a real life example. I visualised the explanation to what I mentioned.
You have a main key to your car and you do the maintenance as and when needed, using different "doors". To get the fule tank filled, you open up the fuel tank almost every second day. Whereas to change content of storage, you open up the "boot". This looked like FTP to me. When you need to change some material on the website hosting, just use the FTP credentials. When you need to do some maintenance, like adding battery/coolant/ you can use CPANEL to do maintenance tasks like add/remove email ids, manage database or check stats etc. In case of a major repair, or to add a new engine accessory you need to open up the engine, using WHM.
However they all use the same admin username/password, albeit via different login interfaces. Just like there is only one key in my example, which is used to drive, open up boot or bonnette or fuel-tank.
Let me know if I am a confusing personality.
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10-09-2007, 21:42
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Hey I am as cool as the moon, about to goto sleep to be honest. just that was in a bit hurry so thought of quicky giving a real life example. I visualised the explanation to what I mentioned.
You have a main key to your car and you do the maintenance as and when needed, using different "doors". To get the fule tank filled, you open up the fuel tank almost every second day. Whereas to change content of storage, you open up the "boot". This looked like FTP to me. When you need to change some material on the website hosting, just use the FTP credentials. When you need to do some maintenance, like adding battery/coolant/ you can use CPANEL to do maintenance tasks like add/remove email ids, manage database or check stats etc. In case of a major repair, or to add a new engine accessory you need to open up the engine, using WHM.
However they all use the same admin username/password, albeit via different login interfaces. Just like there is only one key in my example, which is used to drive, open up boot or bonnette or fuel-tank.
Let me know if I am a confusing personality.
Warm regards
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LOL! You must be tired: You asked me what package I'd bought and we're in pre-sales!  However , your answer is quite clear: If I make a password with 75 characters in it, it will do my head in......rapidly!!
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11-09-2007, 13:34
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Yes Sir, perhaps it would.  But for certain likeminded people who invent utilities. We are all like you. That's why there are automated softwares that save the login credentials for you. You don't have to remember them at all times. Just note them somewhere in a diary or something for future emergency reference. For day-to-day use, the respective program will save the information for you. You just have to say "Connect" in most of the cases and they do the login sequence themselves.
There is a better way though, if you have any certain maintenance issues, and you can always call-in support, they would do the needful for you. OR, we are here to help things out with.
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11-09-2007, 15:29
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Ok, the automated entry of the password sounds good. Where would this password be saved and who could "possibly" have access to it??
There are some hackers about.
Thanks for your reply!
EDit* How often should this password ber changed?
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11-09-2007, 16:01
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Good day,
Hackers are all around but so are people fighting them. Just like cops and theives  Theives are there as well but we trust the law enforcement people. That trust also is a base of some assumptions in the IT world.
The automated password are store on your computer and generally in an encrypted manner such that only the host application should be able to decrypt them. But then, for your convenience again, some softwares save them "normally", plain text and don't hide them in the "password please" boxes. This is based on the assumption that only you will be accessing your computer at your home (or office).
As for hackers accessing your computer and stealing password, unfortunately I admit it does happen. But not if you're careful enough not to disclose passwords in any email or chat transcripts and/or your internet connection is protected at the periphery, using a moderately secure modem or router. But then, It's a windows world, and even the Whitehouse accuses China of hacking! If indeed, you suspect the passwords have got stolen, you can always change them or get them changed via support department.
So, Nothing to worry about.
Password changing frequency depends on many factors. How secure is your content, how many different people access your content (with how many people have you shared your password) etc. It also depends on the password policies of the webhost in some cases. They force a change every n days. One of my website hostings, I have not had the need to change my password for 2 years. On yet another, i have changed at least 6 times in three months. The one where I had to change often, is used by sales team and the staff keeps joining and leaving on that part. As per our HR exit policy, we have to change all passwords when an employee leaves.
Hope that is not burdening you.
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IJ
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11-09-2007, 16:24
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No burden at all!
At the outset of the venture, I will be the only person with the password, regardless of how much confusion I create for myself. Until I'm satisfied that I am comfortable with my knowledge of precautions and my ability to make backups smoothly, that's the way the situation will stay. I'm in no hurry.
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............and then there is always Linux (I'm using Feisty Fawn at the moment). I presume I have a chioce of Linux servers? Damn, I didn't check this? I'll have a quick look over the packages again!
EDit* Now that was a burden for about 26 seconds.....phew!!
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11-09-2007, 16:47
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Hello,
I referred to Windows World as Windows predominantly ebing used at end users' home/offices.
At the webhost side, you should not worry about hackers. They have their staff keeping an eye on both servers, Windows or Linux. At eukHost, there are much more intelligent staff members than at other places. While choosing a package, choose as per to your liking, not based on security factors. Though Linux is undoubtedly more reliable than Windows(you'd know this, you're a regd linux user), if you're more comfortable in windows environment, you could choose that as well.
I notice that eUK has awsome packages, enough to confuse an experienced (ahem..) person like me. That is because they offer so many things at so many places. And if something is missing, they don't mind adding it.
If you have any doubts about eukhost packages, you can post them here, and the staff will clear the same for you and if they tell a lie somwhere, we will tell you.
Regds
IJ
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11-09-2007, 16:53
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Thanks! I can be counted on for two things:
1. To always ask questions.
2. To always be honest about my abilities.
3. To change my mind if I ever really feel it's necessary! Tennets for life! 
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11-09-2007, 17:10
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Thanks! I can be counted on for two things:
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You're welcome! These are three not two.
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1. To always ask questions.
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Symptoms of a genuis.
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3. To change my mind if I ever really feel it's necessary! Tennets for life!
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Adaptability as I see
I wish I could be you...
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11-09-2007, 17:14
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I knew I could count on you not to be fooled by a mere number! 
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