looking to move host

[vicky]

hi,

please be gentle with me, this is my 1st post.
i am looking to move my website from the host it is with to a new one. the reason for this is because the site was set up by someone who cant look after it for my anymore and so i need to take it over. the person who set it up did it on his own server so i have had nothing to do with the whole set up of it.
i want to be able to look after the site myself rather than rely on someone else to do everything for me. as you may have guessed by now, im not so good with all the technical side of things

anyway, my site is not huge, it has several pages, but it does have a forum (phpbb) that i would like to take with me as it is all set up and has posts that i dont want to lose. i also own the domain name.

what i want to know is can i transfer my site to eukhost without too many complications and can i move my forum as it is or would i have to start all over again?
i dont mind so much redoing the website, as i have all the info saved and its easy enough to put it onto a new site(says she who is not that brill on computers!), but i do want to try and keep the forum as it is. maybe it might be better for me to redo the website anyway so can learn how to do it?
i need something that is easy for a beginner to do and look after.

does anyone understand what i have written? if anyone out there can offer me any advice then i would be very grateful. would i be able to run the phpbb forum on the bronze package? im sorry to sound so untechnical.

many thanks in advance for any help.
vicky

[Brian]

Do you have access to the Admin of the CPanel or the forum itself ? If so you can backup the database and just install here on our servers. You can also do a full backup via CPanel of your websites databases and bring them over. It shouldnt be a problem ifyou have access to these.

[eUKhost.com]

Vicky

Transfer procedure for .com domains and .co.uk domains is completely different, so I would like to know what type of domain you have and accordingly I can provide you with step by step information to get your domain name transferred under our registration.

Our Bronze plan should be sufficient for you to run your website and phpbb forum. Our Support Staff will assist you to help you with migration of your data and databases on our servers. cPanel control panel is a feature rich control panel and you will find it quite handy to manage most of the things on your own.

You can create a new database from the control panel and then restore backup of your database from the Backup Manager section of your control panel. If you find it difficult to do yourself, then let us know and one of our support staff member on livechat or our helpdesk ( http://support.eukhost.com ) will take care of this.

cPanel comes with another addon called Fantastico. You can install many different types of blogs, forums, photo galleries and various content management systems. I would suggest you to get started with the signup process as everything else can be sorted step by step

You should start feeling comfortable with your hosting account within next 2 - 3 days

[vicky]

hi,

thank you both for your replies. i am completely new to managing a website because like i said before mine is 'managed' by someone else for me. i give him the pages i want on the site and he does it all for me. but i need to think about doing it all myself as he isnt always around.
anyway, enough of that. my domain is a .co.uk one. i dont know if you need the full address or not, let me know if you do.
i know i have paid for the domain name so i am assuming it will be transfered to here if this is where i chose.

now i start to get lost when you start talking about contol panels and things, (i told you im no good with computers ) i need something that is going to be easy to look after and that i can do myself.
i am wondering if it would just be easier to redesign the site rather than try to keep the other one going as i really have no idea about how it has been done. can i take all the data and just put it into a new site? its the forum i really want to keep as it is because i dont want my members to have to rejoin or anything. is it easy enough to design a website? is there anything that will help me set things out if i was to go with eukhost? basically my experience of designing a website was an msn groups one, and they kind of set it all out for you, you just tweak it to how you want it. im sorry if i sound very green at this, but i have to admit that i am!
i have full admin control of the forum, the other guy just sets all the website up and hosts the site for me. however i cant download any addons to the forum, that has to be done by this other guy
i have just looked at the admin control panel for the forum and yes i can back up the database, but i will be honest and say that i dont understand it all, but in answer to your question i am able to do it

i dont have any access to the 'guts' of the website though. all i can do is look at it! i have had no idea how it was put together or anything. sorry i cant be more help on that. this is why i am thinking it might be better for me to just put all my info onto a brand new site???

im sorry to be so awkward
vicky

[Site]

Hi,
It may be best if you can copy your original site over to here including the forum with database full of members then it would be as it is currently for example under your control. Then in time you could install an online portal like phpnuke or wordpress / similar and run that as a website? keeping the forum also. (website & forum)

It really depends how managed you want your previous site if its been designed for you, it may take a while to get to grips with it? but Im sure many on here would help


Rgds

[Homer]

Hi

As a complete numpty, is there an idiot's guide to setting up a website on here? I know that you techy guys are really helpful and all, but for a complete wassock, it gets too confusing the moment the words "phpp" or "wordpress" or "phpnuke" are mentioned, I go running for my medicine straight away!

Please direct me to a friendly page for dumbos.

Thanks.

Homer

[Site]

Php nuke / Wordpress are CMS

CMS = Content management systems


Web Pages that are built for you, you just modify to suit

These are installed through Fantastico within cPanel


cPanel is the web hosting control Panel



It really depends what you are looking for within your site

[Homer]

Hi

I understand books, so I will put my scenario in book form.

I would like a site with a Cover (picture, title, author), Contents page (with a way to hop to certain chapters), Chapters (writing, pictures, tables, maps etc). Some Chapters would need to have Sub-Chapters.

I think that's about it really, apart from, where needed, there would be links to pages within the website itself, as well as other websites outside my own and a link to a forum.

If there were various sites I could look at, I could then say "I want that one!" The problem is, I don't know what is possible for people as thick as me, I need an expert to say, "Look at this site, even you could do that one."

Thanks for your support.

Homer

[vicky]

Originally Posted by Site

Hi,
It may be best if you can copy your original site over to here including the forum with database full of members then it would be as it is currently for example under your control. Then in time you could install an online portal like phpnuke or wordpress / similar and run that as a website? keeping the forum also. (website & forum)

It really depends how managed you want your previous site if its been designed for you, it may take a while to get to grips with it? but Im sure many on here would help


Rgds

hi,

i get the feeling that my current website is set up in a way that is far too complicated to me. i know when i wrote the pages the guy who manages it for me kept asking for the pages all in codes and things, well that all got far to complicated for me. i need something that i can do easily, something that appears on the page as it will do when it goes live. then i know what i am doing and how the pages will look.
the idea of webpages that are built for me and that just need a bit of tweaking to suit my needs sounds great lol i need a template that i can just fill in.

so if i went with the bronze package that costs £29.99 a year, plus the site builder that is £24 a year. would there be any other costs that i have missed?

one more question, how do i know if the bronze package has enough space for what i need. that bit really confuses me. is anyone able to provide any links to websites that are on a bronze package so i can see the sort of thing i can do?

thanks again for your replies
vicky

[eUKhost.com]

You may like to check some of the articles listed on URL's mentioned below :-

http://www.eukhost.com/web-hosting/k...tting-started/

http://blog.eukhost.com/webhosting/c...g-application/

http://blog.eukhost.com/webhosting/g...hared-hosting/

http://blog.eukhost.com/webhosting/ecommerce-stores/

http://blog.eukhost.com/webhosting/choosing-a-cms/

http://blog.eukhost.com/webhosting/creating-a-forum/

We have some good flash tutorials in our Support section located at http://www.eukhost.com/support/. Our tutorials section in this Forum, our knowledgebase and our blog covers most of the things that one would need to get step forward in making a successful website

[jc8654]

Hi Vicky,
You can always upgrade to a higher package and pay the difference so don't worry too much about the space etc. That would take 2 minutes for support to do.

Regarding site builder, I would be interested to see what you have already to say whether you need this. There is an editor in cPanel which allows you to modify sites.

If you could give us the full domain name, it would help us tell you what you need and don't.

[jc8654]

Originally Posted by Homer

Hi

I understand books, so I will put my scenario in book form.

I would like a site with a Cover (picture, title, author), Contents page (with a way to hop to certain chapters), Chapters (writing, pictures, tables, maps etc). Some Chapters would need to have Sub-Chapters.

I think that's about it really, apart from, where needed, there would be links to pages within the website itself, as well as other websites outside my own and a link to a forum.

If there were various sites I could look at, I could then say "I want that one!" The problem is, I don't know what is possible for people as thick as me, I need an expert to say, "Look at this site, even you could do that one."

Thanks for your support.

Homer

You can make a site like that using some kind of editor e.g. dreamweaver or frontpage. There is also an editor inside cPanel (like the control panel in Windows) on the Linux shared hosting packages.

Your site would be an index page - the front cover, a main menu - the contents page, and then other pages which are linked to from that.

If you don't want to do it yourself, in cPanel you are able to install forums, blogs and other programs which allow you to have a website and you have to do no coding. It's all done through graphics and intuitive options.

[vicky]

Originally Posted by jc8654

Hi Vicky,
You can always upgrade to a higher package and pay the difference so don't worry too much about the space etc. That would take 2 minutes for support to do.

Regarding site builder, I would be interested to see what you have already to say whether you need this. There is an editor in cPanel which allows you to modify sites.

If you could give us the full domain name, it would help us tell you what you need and don't.

hi,
my web addy is (i will post it on another post as its telling me i need 5 posts to be able to post a url)
like i said before i dont have any control over the website, all i can do is look at it. it would be really nice for me to be able to look after it and add things when i want to rather than waiting for someone else to do it for me.

if you could have a quick look for me and give me some advice on what i will need that would be fantastic. (i didnt realise you could do that by looking at my site)
i really appreciate any advice you can give me.
does the amount of space i need depend on how big my site is or how many people visit it, or both? sorry, i have so many questions.
thanks again
vicky

[vicky]

hope it works this time!

nope it didnt want to work

so here it is with spaces

www. familytreechat .co.uk

( take the spaces away) finger crossed!

vicky

[jc8654]

Don't worry about asking questions! We all have been at the stage you are at of being new to this!

The diskspace is to do with the files stored on your server i.e. the files that make up the site. So the images, webpages, downloads etc. which are stored on the server. From what you said above, this is "depend on how big my site"

Everytime someone accesses one of these files, your bandwidth usage is what is used up here. If they accessed a 1MB file, you would use 1MB of your monthly bandwidth. Again, from above this is to do with "how many people visit it" but also what files they access e.g. a 1MB file uses less bandwidth than a 5MB file.

Looking at your site, it appears to use PHP which I would think you can edit from the editor in cPanel. Out of interest, how do you update it currently? Do you send someone a picture and the text or an actual web page?

[vicky]

hi,

to update the site i write the document in word and send it to the guy who manages the site. he then puts it all into 'code' (i have no idea about that part, it confuses me) and then it appears as a page on the site.

this is all very complicated and the main reason i want to simplify things and take it over myself.
it would be much easier for me to have a template page and just add the things i want on it, and for it to appear as it would when it goes live. i cant see how things will appear if they are all written in code. i just want to be able to write it as its going to appear.

i hope all that makes sense

vicky

[eUKhost.com]

Hello Vicky,

We provide RVSitebuilder and Site Builder with our hosting plans for additional cost. You can choose Site Builder which will cost £24.00 per year. Site Builder will allow you to drag and drop images where you want, put content where you want to see it on your website and so on.

Site Builder is quite similar to how you work with content and images in MS Word, however the interface appears different and method of submitting the web pages on completion is somewhat different. You can check some tutorials on RVsitebuilder and Site Builder from demodemo.com and request our staff to active your account on a server which supports one of the 2 website designing softwares.

[jc8654]

Hi Vicky,
As Mark says, it's probably best you use one of the site builder software above. This will allow you to have an interface a bit like word and you can drag and drop things without any knowledge of the code behind it. I would suggest having a play with both of them and seeing which you prefer.

[vicky]

hi,

right i have had a look at the site builder tutorial, and i think even i could manage to do that! it seems pretty much like the msn groups site that i had. so that is that bit sorted, i think i would be able to build a site.

now the next thing is, i am very confused by all the different packages and the different amounts of webspace and bandwidth.
for example the bronze package has 400MB of webspace and 5Gb of bandwidth but underneath that there are others that have a lot more. now i kind of get the idea about the webspace being the space my site can take up and the bandwidth being the amount of people who visit the site and what they look at ? i really have no idea how big a MB and a GB is and how it relates to my site.

what i dont have a clue about is if the bronze package will be big enough for my site.

the site builder talks about certain packages being allowed so many web pages. so many of them being top level pages and so many being lower level pages. have i read this right?

thanks for all your help!

vicky

[jc8654]

Hi Vicky,
I'm not sure about the site builder thing but I would suggest starting off with Bronze and as I said before, you can always upgrade to a higher package if you need to. There's no point paying for something you don't need!

I presume the site builder thing means so many main pages and then sub pages e.g. Menu, About, Contact etc. as top level and then lower level e.g. from About going to people, places etc. I can't say that's definately right but that's my guess.