Interesting post in the .net forums...? - UK Web Hosting | Dedicated Server Windows and Linux VPS Forum

**esnail** · #1 (**permalink**) 07-04-2008, 20:56

Someone has started a rumour-post in the .net forums suggesting that eukHost is about to implode:
http://forum.netmag.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=36815

He doesn't say how he knows this or who his 'accurate' sources are - but thought you might be interested in what is being said about the company. This kind of comment can really harm a company, especially if it isn't true.

p.s. - I've assumed it's a HE lol.

**Morledge** · #2 (**permalink**) 07-04-2008, 23:13

This is an interesting post (although I dont believe it).

The fact that eUKHost does not charge VAT has always confused me, or am I missing something?

**eUK-Nick** · #3 (**permalink**) 08-04-2008, 00:11

Hello,

Our VAT No : 927046620

This has been displayed here

**Brian** · #4 (**permalink**) 08-04-2008, 00:49

Just looks like a bitter customer trying to black mark eUK. We have all had problems with eUK (small or large) and it gets sorted in a timely manner. I have no idea what his problem was but he has obvious blown his top. I can make plenty of posts claiming things about companies I cannot prove. As he said he has proof, I still havent seen it

**jc8654** · #5 (**permalink**) 08-04-2008, 01:28

It seems like no one except him seems to think eUK is about to disappear after April. And VAT is an interesting one. If you're under £64,000 (it might be £67,000 but around that figure) in UK turnover then you're VAT exempt and so therefore don't need to be registered. I know my partnership doesn't have to be until we start making it bigtime! Lol.

Going back to this though, all of the stuff seems to be rubbish. The stuff about accounts on companies house has been explained, Bluesquare aren't aware of anything and as said before, it seems like someone with a grudge!

**Brian** · #6 (**permalink**) 08-04-2008, 02:15

Yup big axe to grind,
If yous do make it big keep me in mind as a freeloader too man

**esnail** · #7 (**permalink**) 08-04-2008, 08:17

Some of what he says is correct, concerning accounts - but the implications of his information doesn't necessarily mean the company is in any trouble. A limited company's accounts is easy enough to obtain, but unless you know the financial structure and all sub companies etc then its difficult to make any judgement on financial status.
As for the 'accurate' sources of his other information... god knows who they are lol. Bloke-down-the-pub syndrome there me thinks!!

**jc8654** · #8 (**permalink**) 08-04-2008, 08:48

Yeah, his info about VAT and companies house seems to be rubbish. And I would have thought people in Bluesquare would have an idea! Seems someone on the other forum is putting him in his place!

**WelshTom** · #9 (**permalink**) 08-04-2008, 09:16

I really don't like arguing, but the fact that eUKhost will remain in BlueSquare over the coming months will prove this users theory wrong.

**John** · #10 (**permalink**) 08-04-2008, 10:50

Hi,

I have explained everything to the best of my ability but there are some things about our personal affairs that I'm not willing to explain. Quite frankly, it's none of his business.

HMRC investigation has proved to be wrong.

Companies House investigation has proved to be wrong.

I have fully explained the VAT situation.

BlueSquare have confirmed we are going no where.

I can assure you, we are not disappearing anytime soon.

**iain2_uk** · #11 (**permalink**) 08-04-2008, 11:00

In support of Jonh's comments:-

As a customer it was in my best interest to check to be sure of my position. I checked the companies house site, and although the last accounts were filed in 2006 and are listed as dorman, there was a return filed in 2007, and the next accounts and returns are not due until back end of this year

As far as I can see everything looks fine, and I will continue with my existing backup strategy, and continue to host with eUKHost

Well done guys for a good service at a good price, and keep it up.

My only request would be that, if the case ever arose that your continuity was in jeopardy, would you please contact your customers in time for us to make alternative arrangements. That said, I have no current fears of that happening

**John** · #12 (**permalink**) 08-04-2008, 11:03

Hello,

Of course, but unless someone blows Bluesquare up, that won't happen.

As for the accounts, they will actually be filed early. Our accountant is currently going through our expenses list for October and November and that's the only thing holding that up.

**Jack** · #13 (**permalink**) 08-04-2008, 11:07

To be frank, some poor performing hosts are targeting eUKhost as they are not able to compete with the level of service we offer. So they are finding new tricks in doing that. They can compete with us only if they improve their service and not by posting against us on external forums.

**RSVEcosse** · #14 (**permalink**) 08-04-2008, 11:49

To be honest, if it was up to me, I would seriously consider taking legal action against the individual concerned.

**WelshTom** · #15 (**permalink**) 08-04-2008, 12:16

So would I. What the user is claiming on the netmag forums is untrue.

**esnail** · #16 (**permalink**) 08-04-2008, 12:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by RSVEcosse

To be honest, if it was up to me, I would seriously consider taking legal action against the individual concerned.

That might be a little harsh. The poster is clearly disgruntled and, after looking into Eukhost finances that are publicly available he's seen a Dormant account. Couple this with his issues with VAT, which appear to be little more than filing a vat return for a period prior to when Eukhost was VAT registered (I could be wrong here - just the impression I got) - this of course got returned to him because the VAT number for Eukhost didn't tally with the time period. So he's gotten annoyed. We've all done it over something in our lives. He then felt the need to spread his concerns in a forum - again a natural thing to do.
Where the post becomes sketchy is when he starts quoting his supposedly accurate sources - he may well have been told these things by someone, but its highly debatable how accurate they are.
The positive thing about the .net thread is that no one has jumped to any conclusions, they have simply been triggered to research Eukhost (myself included) to determine the state of the company, and the general consensus is there's nothing to worry about. By the end of the thread (so far), I think Eukhost has come out looking ok

**freeneasy** · #17 (**permalink**) 08-04-2008, 12:37

They are just jealous because

**jc8654** · #18 (**permalink**) 08-04-2008, 12:53

I think that personally the liabel action could be quite a strong case. Potentially, the allogation that the company will be gone by the end of April could affect signups and other allogations could damage the company image unless they were addressed (as they have been). Celebrities sue for far more trivial things!

**eUKhost.com** · #19 (**permalink**) 08-04-2008, 13:02

Many customers messaged me last night, even some of our staff members were concerned. Its not easy to answer concerns of all staff members and customers in such situation. We both ( John and me ) decided to answer all his false allegations with proof and I'm glad to have had your support in this matter.

We hardly had a dozen of servers till 2006, but things changed from end of 2006 and our accounts didn't look good till then. We were late with registration of VAT as the procedure took some extra time. Some nominal dues will be there which will be paid once we file our next return in September 2008.

Only reason we offer such high level of service is to get your support when needed and I'm thankful to you all who supported eUKhost against such false allegations.

**freeneasy** · #20 (**permalink**) 08-04-2008, 14:17

I see the topic over there has been removed.