Carbon Neutral eUKHost

[helloworld]

Just wondering what people would think about a Carbon Neutral hosting company - would anyone pay more to be able to put a "Carbon Neutral Site" image on their website (and save the planet )

Anyway, please answer the poll...

[Eidolon]

The whole 'carbon neutral' or 'carbon footprint' is a joke in my opinion. It appears to be the whole 'global warming' repackaged for the 21st centuary and hoping to get the USA interested this time.

Whilst reducing it might well be good and beneficial, the whole 'offsetting' is laughable. How can planting a tree really be that good though they produce oxygen when photosynthesising they emit CO2 when respiring (if I remember biology) and release it when they die. Shoving corks up cow backsides would be more beneficial as they release a lot of CO2.

It appears to becoming more of a gimmick.

[eUKhost.com]

Though the Carbon Neutral concept has nothing to do with us but your concepts about tree's are wrong.

They don't release CO2 when they die. They leave pur Carbon when they die and you can use that Carbon as a fuel so you are the one who will release CO2 after burning Carbon.

Maybe by end of our life, whole world will get submerged due to Global Warming but it would be due to our carelessness. Tree's were the main reason so far for a good balance in Climatic conditions all over but we have broken that balance.

"No Trees = No Humans"

[DPS Computing]

I like trees and would support anything that would help the world we live in.

However I fail to notice how it relates to web hosting.

Sure I would support a scheme to plant more trees and / or protect the environment or help it any other way - but tying it in with web hosting?

And buy a "Carbon Neutral Hosting company" do you mean that you want Mark to go out and plant a tree for every sign up eUKhost has .

[helloworld]

Originally Posted by DPS Computing

I like trees and would support anything that would help the world we live in.

However I fail to notice how it relates to web hosting.

Sure I would support a scheme to plant more trees and / or protect the environment or help it any other way - but tying it in with web hosting?

And buy a "Carbon Neutral Hosting company" do you mean that you want Mark to go out and plant a tree for every sign up eUKhost has .

See wikihow.com for a carbon neutral website.
http://www.wikihow.com/WikiHow:Carbon-Neutral

Also, this website about carbon neutral sites
http://www.hotgecko.net/

[flesso]

Originally Posted by DPS Computing

And buy a "Carbon Neutral Hosting company" do you mean that you want Mark to go out and plant a tree for every sign up eUKhost has .

How about making all staff walk to work every day?

Also, switching servers off for a long time will save alot of electricity.

[helloworld]

It isn't all about planting trees - you can switch to a renewable source of energy, help fund eco-friendly projects etc.

[helloworld]

Originally Posted by younesbouazza

Yes! But don't you think that there should be some solar powered ones?

Yes! I think they should be shut off over the weekends!

Peace!

I was including solar panels in the whole renewable source of energy thing, but yes, it could be viable to stick some on the roof of eUKhost!

As far as shutting servers down, that would not be an option as many people require websites to be live all the time - like me, but there are loads of other ways that it could be more eco-friendly.

[helloworld]

And also it could also eventually lead to eUKhost saving money, which they could pass on to the customer, if they started micro-generation.

How many kW does somewhere like eUKhost consume per day - anyone got any ideas?

[DPS Computing]

I suppose I have got quite a limited knowledge of the subject, but saving money and helping the world overall does sound pretty good. Thanks for the links helloworld, I am off to educate myself as we speak!

[widget]

I'd be really impressed if eukhost promoted this poll, to try and push the issue out to the attention of all eukhost customers. For me, offsetting your own carbon footprint at eukhost is something that could be the deciding factor for customers who are trying to choose a decent webhost. eg. If a customer narrowed his search for a hosting company down to a final choice of two providers, one who offers a broadly similar service and price to eukhost but they actually promote their positive environmental policies and eukhost don't, then it could mean that the customer would more than likely choose the other hosting company instead of eukhost.

From the limited number of people who's answered this poll so far, 80% have said "yes" they are basically interested in a carbon neutral eukhost! If we had more people answer the poll, it could just give the right signal to eukhost to do something about it!! Pllllleaaaase?

[Rock]

How about this IDEA It'd be rather impossible, practically, but we need to come out with something like this to save our Planet Earth

[DPS Computing]

Originally Posted by widget

I'd be really impressed if eukhost promoted this poll, to try and push the issue out to the attention of all eukhost customers. For me, offsetting your own carbon footprint at eukhost is something that could be the deciding factor for customers who are trying to choose a decent webhost. eg. If a customer narrowed his search for a hosting company down to a final choice of two providers, one who offers a broadly similar service and price to eukhost but they actually promote their positive environmental policies and eukhost don't, then it could mean that the customer would more than likely choose the other hosting company instead of eukhost.

From the limited number of people who's answered this poll so far, 80% have said "yes" they are basically interested in a carbon neutral eukhost! If we had more people answer the poll, it could just give the right signal to eukhost to do something about it!! Pllllleaaaase?

I know it sounds harsh but I disagree for me personally. A carbon neutral company would not persuade me either way whether to join a company for my web hosting.

The things that I base my hosting on are uptime / features / pricing etc.

If you want to put your energy into something that will really save the planet then start a petition to get President Bush to sign up to the Keyoto agreement - that will do a billion times what one company can do!

[hugh]

Sorry to bring up an old topic again. My old username was helloworld, but I'm back as "hugh" now.

I agree with widget - I do think that lots of people would be interested. eUK wouldn't necessarily have to go completely eco. A start might be to offer a "green" plan, with a couple of servers powered by renewable sources, like solar panels. This would let eUK see the demand for green hosting.

@Eidolon - I'm not sure about the whole "carbon neutral" thing myself, it was just a neat phrase to use for the poll. What we really need to be thinking is how to reduce the electricity, so more power efficient servers (if they exist, not sure), and also how to get our electricity without producing CO2. There are data centers (won't give names, don't want to accidentally advertise opposition ) in America which have gone completely solar powered, and I think I remember reading in theregister that one German company had gone hydro powered using water from a nearby river.

@DPS - true, i think we all base our decisions on those criteria, but as eUK are already near the top (or at the top) for those things, it would also be an added bonus to have a renewable source of electricity for the servers. It's not all about what politicians can do, we all have to try and reduce our co2 output.

Thanks,
Hugh

[DPS Computing]

Originally Posted by hugh

Sorry to bring up an old topic again. My old username was helloworld, but I'm back as "hugh" now.

I agree with widget - I do think that lots of people would be interested. eUK wouldn't necessarily have to go completely eco. A start might be to offer a "green" plan, with a couple of servers powered by renewable sources, like solar panels. This would let eUK see the demand for green hosting.

@Eidolon - I'm not sure about the whole "carbon neutral" thing myself, it was just a neat phrase to use for the poll. What we really need to be thinking is how to reduce the electricity, so more power efficient servers (if they exist, not sure), and also how to get our electricity without producing CO2. There are data centers (won't give names, don't want to accidentally advertise opposition ) in America which have gone completely solar powered, and I think I remember reading in theregister that one German company had gone hydro powered using water from a nearby river.

@DPS - true, i think we all base our decisions on those criteria, but as eUK are already near the top (or at the top) for those things, it would also be an added bonus to have a renewable source of electricity for the servers. It's not all about what politicians can do, we all have to try and reduce our co2 output.

Thanks,
Hugh

The beauty of computing and all related topics though is that it is always moving on. Theres always a new standard to set, new technology to implement, news features to support and I personally (as I'm sure most other customers are) would rather eUKhost focus on delivering this rather than something which will be largely ineffective in the whole scheme of things. While we still as countries use our cars, want instant electricity, watch 50" plasma tvs and want lots of electricals in our homes it will not be very effective.

Fair enough if eUKhost can be "eco friendly" by not being callous but I would not specifically want to see these benefits being introduced at the expense of the service that the business is providing.

I think its a huge burden to place the future of our environment on one company. As I have said, its the big changes which will make a difference, such as the Keyoto agreement being agreed by the USA.

Why should we, as the general population, lose out on what have become our basic needs, such as transport and electricity while other things are having a much larger effect?

Wars for example are having a drastic effect on climate change. All those oil lines being breached polluting the land, the oil lines on fire releasing greenhouse gases etc.

We should try to save the environment, but not at the expense of giving everything up and stoping trying to further ourselves technology and society wise. What kind of life would that be?

[jc8654]

I'm going to stay well out of this discussion! Lol. I have a feeling it may get heated.

[DPS Computing]

Originally Posted by jc8654

I'm going to stay well out of this discussion! Lol. I have a feeling it may get heated.

No, no, no. Thats the last thing we want . I'm just trying to make a valid point using the information that the world and its experts have provided me. I have a full bibliography and list of references available on request if you so wish to see it .

[jc8654]

Originally Posted by DPS Computing

I have a full bibliography and list of references available on request if you so wish to see it .

I could provide the same for the opposite arguement!

[DPS Computing]

Originally Posted by jc8654

I could provide the same for the opposite arguement!

But mine are credible sources .

PS. Your involved now .

[jc8654]

Go back to your computers David and I'll stick with the real science! Lol.