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Old 09-03-2008, 12:36
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Do I need to repeat the words kid's, kids, birthday & party?

kids birthday party, kid's birthday party, kids party, kid's party, Kids birthday, kid's birthday

Could I just have Kid's, birthday, party, kids, and get the same result?

Also is ' relevant before 's

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If you could make a well structured paragraph out of them all it would certainly help

I assume were talking Search Engine Optimization here
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This is for the meta tag within the website hosting.
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I think that if you have more than one keyword in between the ,'s, then it will be considered as a "Key Phrase" rather than a Key Word, and will only get shown for the search of the particular phrase.

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Also it would be better to research on keywords like to find more new keywords which are location specific, region specific or language specific, this will avoid chances of repetition of keywords.
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Hi

Do I need to repeat the words kid's, kids, birthday & party?

kids birthday party, kid's birthday party, kids party, kid's party, Kids birthday, kid's birthday

Could I just have Kid's, birthday, party, kids, and get the same result?

Also is ' relevant before 's

Thanks

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Use only 2 or 3 keywords per PAGE and write the same page slightly differently for other keywords, using the major keywords in your page-name, in H1 tag (heading), in the first paragraph, repeat the keywords once or twice in other paragraphs, and also use the keyword in the last paragraph. You may bold it. BUT, make the article relevant to the keyword/s.

You can use multiple pages with the above mentioned keywords, but take care that you are only using 2 or 3 keywords per page so that the article can have them while also making the page readable.

Use keyword tool or even Google search to find which keywords are being searched more. Long-tailed keywords (kids birthday party) works well if there are just enough people searching for that phrase - i.e., this you can find using good keyword tool.

Using Google -- If you find that (in this particular case - "kids birthday party" - there are almost 400,000 pages available) the phrase is "saturated" then your page will be very difficult to find a place in to 30 places. (i.e., the first 3 search result pages... people normally check only about the first 3 pages - 30 results - then give up, or then click on one of those first 30 results.)

What' the use if you have an excellent page, but it comes up on the 110th page in Google? No one except your friends are going to know that your page exists.

So, try and find a better phrase with the same meaning instead of using so many keywords.

"kids birthday party" = 400,000+ results in Google search for this phrase (40,000+ pages in Google search for this phrase enclosed in quotes).

"kid's birthday party" = 85,000+ results in Google (notice the apostrophy) (8,500 pages).

"Kids birthday" - 786,000 results (78,600 pages)

"kid's birthday" - 130,000 results (13,000+ pages)

and so on...

You'll find that all your keywords are already deeply saturated. I doubt any of your keywords will help you reach the first 10 - even first 100 in Google, especially if your website hosting is new, without quality external links, without onpage Search Engine Optimization,....

Alternately, if your page has good sales items then use Adwords. That will definitely increase your chances to get your page on the first 2 pages in Google.

So, keep testing... find better keywords and use them judiciously in the content.

I hope this will help your cause.

P.S.: For your solo keywords (kids / kid's, birthday), there exists millions of results, actually more than 275,000,000 results for "birthday" (i.e., 275,000,000 divided by 10 = 27,500,000 pages! [27.5 million pages exists for "birthday"])

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Thanks for all your advice....I'm slowly getting to grips with it all.

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