"Penalty for duplicate content" Google?

**kelvintrinit** · #1 (**permalink**) 08-05-2010, 06:51

Does the term "penalty for duplicate content" actually exist in google's vocabulary?

Everybody believes that there is penalty for duplicate content a severe penalty which will cause your website to be banned or removed from google list. Well in my recent research in google algo i have come across several articles about does google really penalize for duplicate content. who can tell this better than google itself, and there is no such phrase as penalty for duplicate content. They don't care how many times same article exists in different websites or who has put the article first. Its only goal is to satisfy the customers by getting range of relevant results to keywords used.

At the same time if there 2 article of same content it does not necessarily mean google will place both the articles or content. It can and it cannot. When google comes across same article on different websites then google takes few factors into consideration and decides to choose appropriate content.

**paul** · #2 (**permalink**) 08-05-2010, 08:49

I guess Google might be able to see the past like Wayback Machine by opening a paragraph of article. Just my thought!

**cranzi** · #3 (**permalink**) 08-05-2010, 20:47

Sometimes I think its a random rumor and then other times I am not so sure. How do you go between the difference of say buying a site and not being about to sit down long enough to read through every page to check before you buy it?

I mention this only b/c lately I am seeing a ton of ads for sites to be sold that actually state "no dupe content" which I find a little oddbal like.

**Danny M** · #4 (**permalink**) 09-05-2010, 12:52

Penalty for duplicate content does exist and that has a direct impact to the rankings of your website in the search engine like Google. If it was non- existent then there was no need to focus on the Quality Content of a Website.

**GWilson** · #5 (**permalink**) 10-05-2010, 10:21

I have ever read somewhere that Google allows duplicate content as long as it is reasonable to publish the duplicate content. Though, I am not sure what they mean with "reasonable" and how to judge it.

**paul** · #6 (**permalink**) 11-05-2010, 09:07

If you're producing quality content you can't resist other people from copying it, you need not to worry about any bad consequence because if the content is unique Google knows who is the real owner of the content and its give rewards accordingly.

**Harry Martin** · #7 (**permalink**) 11-05-2010, 18:20

I am in this field of Search Engine Optimization for some time now, when i start Search Engine Optimization the first site of my client has all the pages almost 60% same content, but not penalize by Google still that site is at Page Ranking three with some good organic traffic. May be this factor counts but i hav,nt seen any example of this nature yet where Google penalize any site.

**GWilson** · #8 (**permalink**) 13-05-2010, 10:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by paul

If you're producing quality content you can't resist other people from copying it, you need not to worry about any bad consequence because if the content is unique Google knows who is the real owner of the content and its give rewards accordingly.

That makes sense, but how does Google recognize the real owner? Does the bot identify it by finding when and where the first time the article is published?

**paul** · #9 (**permalink**) 13-05-2010, 14:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by GWilson

That makes sense, but how does Google recognize the real owner? Does the bot identify it by finding when and where the first time the article is published?

Take example of news site bbc.co.uk or Nytimes, many people republish same content in their websites but did you ever heard bbc/nytimes sites are banned due to duplicate issues? The answer is No, that means when the text are so widely used on multiple sites Google must be addressing it in some ways apparently either by the age of the page or first indexed date with their cache text-version or possibly giving a special authority to specific site.
Bottomline: You can't resist people from republishing your content especially if you produce unique content because your content travels worldwide and it attracts many users, it's like if you let a bunch of balloon loose in a school playground you can't punish the naughty boys who cannot resist the temptation to burst it?

**Franklin** · #10 (**permalink**) 13-05-2010, 16:06

What if i write a unique content, and someone steals it before indexing. Whose content will be considered as duplicate? Mine or the one who has stolen it? Or will it happen the same like it has happened with this thread? The thread opener has posted same thread in another forum where as we can see that the thread opened over here at eukhost forum is not indexed but the one it is posted on another forum is been indexed. So IMO Google deindex the duplicate content.

**paul** · #11 (**permalink**) 15-05-2010, 07:27

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Originally Posted by Franklin

What if i write a unique content, and someone steals it before indexing. Whose content will be considered as duplicate? Mine or the one who has stolen it? Or will it happen the same like it has happened with this thread? The thread opener has posted same thread in another forum where as we can see that the thread opened over here at eukhost forum is not indexed but the one it is posted on another forum is been indexed. So IMO Google deindex the duplicate content.

Well, if google is indexing other sites with the stolen content means their sites are well optimized than others. What I've mentioned here are purely based on assumption, I am not google guy, I hope someone will explain such issue in better way however it is sure that if your website is not well optimized and at least 50-60% dedicated to being search engine friendly you can't expect better results.

I personally hate copying, it is kind of the sincerest form of insincere praise or pomposity whatever side you are on that fence..

Btw the post by the thread opener is indexed and showing at the top of the results for eukhost forum ( Google)

**cfitness** · #12 (**permalink**) 21-05-2010, 09:12

Rumors.. only Google guys can confirm. Duplicate content is unavoidable. Sooner or later, a lazy guy will copy your website's content.

**freeflyer** · #13 (**permalink**) 22-05-2010, 12:51

there is no duplicate content penatly.. there is a FILTER, not a penalty.. two completely different things. Your site or pages wont be banned for having duplicate content.. google will simply select which site is more relevant by other methods such as authority, templating, external links etc and list that one instead of yours. It doesnt mean yours wont be listed, but it may be listed under another term, or under different circumstances.

Likewise, if you have mysite.com and keywordphrase.com both going to the same site in order to be listed well for 'keywordphrase' and you main site already has authority, forget it, google will simply return your main site instead of the keywordphrase.com one , but neither will have a penalty attached.

**Buldog** · #14 (**permalink**) 23-05-2010, 11:20

In my researches this penalty is just a nonsense. There are sites that live out of duplicate articles for years and they face no penalty.

**Frenchy** · #15 (**permalink**) 24-05-2010, 15:57

There are tons of sites that offer PLR articles that you can use for your own website. Personally I don't believe there is such penalty unless you start to go wild and publish some content more than 1000 times.

**Payday_** · #16 (**permalink**) 27-05-2010, 14:10

Google does penalize websites if they found them to be duplicated or not meeting their other important checklist points.