ftp/ww permissions

[freeflyer]

hi all.. i've submitted a ticket but my email from my other host is playing up, so i cant get to it..

anyway.. new to all this VPS Hosting and got a problem with a CMS package and creating new pages. It wont allow me to create new pages via the admin panel due to "insufficient privilidges", now as far as i'm aware this is due to the fact that i FTP's the files as explained from the help section of the software website hosting.

"To access a file on a server, one requires a user account on that server. In general, the user account is password protected and assigned to a certain group. The following groups can be found on many web servers: ftp-user, root, wwrun-user. All actions and programs (e.g. FTP) which are executed on a system are executed with the permissions of a certain user.
Note:
Files uploaded via FTP to the webserver are in general assigned to the group: ftp-user. Files created via a PHP script on the server are in general assigned to the group: wwwrun-user. Depending on your server settings, files created by a PHP script may not be edited or deleted by a FTP program and vice versa."


So, how do i change this setting on WHM? i'm going to be transferring sites via ftp and afterwards i obviously want the php scripts to be able to change stuff and create pages,directories etc.. but at the moment they cant..

Thanks
adrian

[eUK-Martin]

Hello,

You will require to change the permissions of the folder, in which want want php to be able to upload, to 777.
If you have any confusions then you can always ask to do it for you.

[freeflyer]

nah that was the first thing i tried... no joy. I'm familiar with chkmod's and permissions but this seems to be a server config thing.

From what i can tell its from the way the web site hosting is uploaded.. ie if the files are created via ftp then they have ftp as the owner, and not www. eg ftp-user and wwrun-user. I'm guessing the folders all must be ftp as the php scripts cant do anything with them.

[freeflyer]

okay an update..

I can get writeable folders by chkmod'ing to 777, but not 755. I'm installing a CMS via an installation wizard on a package that i ftp'd.

what have i set up wrong? Why cant i get permissions on 755?

[eUK-Martin]

This is how permissions are defined in Linux:
If I put them horizontally, they would read as:

755:
----
7 = Read [ 1 ] + Write [ 2 ] + Exe [ 4 ] for the owner/user.
5 = Read [ 1 ] + Exe [ 4 ] for the group.
5 = Read [ 1 ] + Exe [ 4 ] for the World/Other.

777:
----
7 = Read [ 1 ] + Write [ 2 ] + Exe [ 4 ] for the owner/user.
7 = Read [ 1 ] + Write [ 2 ] + Exe [ 4 ] for the group.
7 = Read [ 1 ] + Write [ 2 ] + Exe [ 4 ] for the World/Other.

Since PHP runs as others it will require 777 permissions to be able to write in to a folder.

[freeflyer]

it wasntl like that my old shared reseller i could use 755 i think.
okay.. since i'm now needing to use the package to create pages in the web root, i need to chkmod my public_html to 777? seems a bit odd.

[freeflyer]

found the prob.. my old host was running php as a CGI, so permissions were different.

[indaloman]

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[freeflyer]

thanks

okay, so am i right in setting my public_ftp to 770 then?

How do i do this bit?
" I changed the apache handler to suphp."

i have no suphp option in the php config on whm.

thanks..

[indaloman]

Originally Posted by freeflyer

thanks

okay, so am i right in setting my public_ftp to 770 then?

How do i do this bit?
" I changed the apache handler to suphp."

i have no suphp option in the php config on whm.

thanks..

In WHM go to service configuration, then configure PHP and SuExec. Here you will see what your PHP handler is. It is most likely DSO, I changed mine to Suphp and it solved all my permission problems. You may need to re install your CMS, I changed all files Groups and ownership through SSH in power panel, then all sites worked OK
All my directories (folders) are at 755, most files are 644.
Ownership of all directories are account name. Groups are all account name except public_html which is nobody, its the only way I could get Joomla 1.5.3 to work correctly.
Hope this helps.
PS. Make a backup in power panel before you change anything.