Linux VPS's

[Fidget]

Do you guys have Linux VPS Hosting's on any separate C class of IPs or are they all on the same one?

tyvm.

[Rsync]

Hi Fidget,

We were not having any Linux VPS Hosting on C class IP's.

[WelshTom]

According to DNSSTUFF.COM, the IP's are at the same Class C's. Here is the error produced:

WARNING: All of your nameservers (listed at the parent nameservers) are in the same Class C (technically, /24) address space, which means that they are probably at the same physical location. Your nameservers should be at geographically dispersed locations. You should not have all of your nameservers at the same location. RFC2182 3.1 goes into more detail about secondary nameserver location.

Although the nameservers are located at the same place however, you shouldn't need to worry, as the eUKHost systems are extremely reliable.

[eUKhost.com]

This is just a warning message but it should not make any difference as most of the servers alll over the world have nameservers setup in same subnet only and that has never made any difference to any of those customers using those nameservers.

[Fidget]

Yes, nameservers should actually be set up in pairs on the same C class, its makes some sense because there can be momentary delays (especially in a shared hosting environment) during a single request for one ns but when asking again (as in the case of 2 ns records pointing to same C class) the delay would often be gone. This goes against a certain RFC, maybe it should be updated.

Anyway, back to the original question, I am a bit unsure of the first answer. Do you mean that all Linux VPS Hosting's here are all on the same C class. I ask because I am looking for another one that is preferably on another C class.

[flesso]

Originally Posted by Fidget

Yes, nameservers should actually be set up in pairs on the same C class, its makes some sense because there can be momentary delays (especially in a shared hosting environment) during a single request for one ns but when asking again (as in the case of 2 ns records pointing to same C class) the delay would often be gone. This goes against a certain RFC, maybe it should be updated.

If name server should be setup in the same class C, how come nobody does? As far as I'm aware, many hosts have their name servers in separate classes, e.g. the nameservers for eukhost.com are in separate classes. The whole idea of it is that if theres a power outage in one data centre, then it doesn't affect the second nameserver which should be in a separate data centre. So overall, it's not down to IP class, it's down to the physical location of each name server, take me for an example, I will only ever have mine in the US, one is on the east coast, other is on the west coast.

Also, it would be hard for an IP from a separate class to be assigned to the VPS Hosting, normally because of the setup with the dns servers for the IP range.

[Fidget]

I meant in pairs pointing to the same C Classes (i.e. one pair pointing to one C Class, another to another, etc), not that all nameservers should point to the same C Class. And actually, not many hosts do use separate C Classes.

Also, it would be hard for an IP from a separate class to be assigned to the VPS Hosting, normally because of the setup with the dns servers for the IP range.

I'm sorry, what are you trying to say there?

[flesso]

Originally Posted by Fidget

And actually, not many hosts do use separate C Classes.

Please name me one that does.

[Latona]

Originally Posted by Thomas

According to DNSSTUFF.COM, the IP's are at the same Class C's. Here is the error produced:

WARNING: All of your nameservers (listed at the parent nameservers) are in the same Class C (technically, /24) address space, which means that they are probably at the same physical location. Your nameservers should be at geographically dispersed locations. You should not have all of your nameservers at the same location. RFC2182 3.1 goes into more detail about secondary nameserver location.

Although the nameservers are located at the same place however, you shouldn't need to worry, as the eUKHost systems are extremely reliable.

Where is the reliability?

I seem to come up against increased unreliability - normally to do with nameserver issues.

People keep saying it is fixed blah blah blah... but the same (or different issues) happen a couple of days later without and server changes on my side... so someone on eukhost side is making changes and causing instability, or they never corrected the original mistake or the servers themelves are highly instable/unreliable.

[eUKhost.com]

Originally Posted by Latona

Where is the reliability?

I seem to come up against increased unreliability - normally to do with nameserver issues.

People keep saying it is fixed blah blah blah... but the same (or different issues) happen a couple of days later without and server changes on my side... so someone on eukhost side is making changes and causing instability, or they never corrected the original mistake or the servers themelves are highly instable/unreliable.

If you try to run google.com from one of our VPS Hosting then you should not expect reliability. You need to check your resource usage and figure out whats wrong with your website hostings or databases. all we can do is restart your VPS Hosting if it gets mounted. We cannot monitor it for days to give you detailed explanation.

[DPS Computing]

If your website hosting is outgrowing what the VPS Hostings can give you maybe it is time to change to a dedicated server solution? - that way I am sure you will get the reliability you are looking for.

I can vouch that I have had no problems with eUKhosts dedicated servers .

[Latona]

Originally Posted by DPS Computing

If your website hosting is outgrowing what the VPS Hostings can give you maybe it is time to change to a dedicated server solution? - that way I am sure you will get the reliability you are looking for.

I can vouch that I have had no problems with eUKhosts dedicated servers .

If my website hosting is outgrowing a VPS Hosting then I am highly surprised considering the same script runs flawlessly on $4.95 a month budget hosting packages.

The only difference is the website hostings hosted on budget hosting packages have active users... mine doesn't as it is not launched.

So definately something not right somewhere ... and I keep being told to monitor usage... but WHAT usage is normal?

what level is safe to run at?

I keep having to say I do not know these things because I have not ran a VPS Hosting before - but I would expect a VPS Hosting to be more resilient than a budget $4.95 hosting plan.

The reason I did not choose a budget hosting plan was due to the fact that it is only flawless with a small number of concurrent users (25 or under) - whereas I have plans for more than that and a VPS Hosting was suggested as many people using the script have said their VPS Hosting was flawless up until 300 or so users.

After 300+ regular users it would move to dedicated (or 2 dedicated etc as required).

[DPS Computing]

For the exact amount of usage on your VPS Hosting that is fair you will have to consult eUKhost.

What you are saying does seem rather strange though. Have you tested your script to see if anything has become corrupt or changed from the original or whether some different settings on the VPS Hosting you are on are causing you problems?

Also have you tried taking a copy of the script on your VPS Hosting back to your budget host just to ensure that it is exactly the same?

Hope that helps .

[Latona]

Originally Posted by DPS Computing

For the exact amount of usage on your VPS Hosting that is fair you will have to consult eUKhost.

What you are saying does seem rather strange though. Have you tested your script to see if anything has become corrupt or changed from the original or whether some different settings on the VPS Hosting you are on are causing you problems?

Also have you tried taking a copy of the script on your VPS Hosting back to your budget host just to ensure that it is exactly the same?

Hope that helps .

To be able to do that I would need to pay for another license to check it out on a different domain - as it would cause problems installing it on a new domain when the valid license already exists on the domain on eukhost VPS Hosting.

I done a php info compare on my shared server hosting (not quite $4.95 a month, but would still come under budget hosting as I run 4 domains on it and it works out at $11.20 per month) - that was how I set up the VPS Hosting (enabling things to mirror what was available on my shared server host... I also do not have any more addon domains on the shared server host (although I never ran on a $4.95 plan - OTHER users of the script have done so).

As I said, I am new to VPS Hosting environment and mirrored the shared server hosting plan as best I could - it appeared almost the same (from memory), with all the required features enabled to have the script function as per the system requirements for the script. I am hoping the only problem outstanding is that the new IP has not fully propogated through yet - and then I can check the new VPS Hosting node to see if a problem still exists. At the minute I cannot check because it apparently still points to the old VPS Hosting (a ping showed it up as the old IP).

[Fidget]

Latona ... running a VPS Hosting (which is what you are doing here) is in NO way the same as running a script on a budget shared hosting account. Its up to you to configure your VPS Hosting to run in a secure and functional manner. This is your stepping stone from budget shared hosting to a dedicated server.

Dude, you need to search, read and learn about how to set the thing up properly to keep yourself up and running. It takes me a few hours to configure a new VPS Hosting to run in the manner I want it to, even then I would need a few actions by the provider (such as EUKhost). These things don't exactly come in an made-to-measure-out-of-the-box status.

If you don't get into this then you'll never grow and go onto the next steps.

If you need help, give specific information and specific details on what you want to do. Start a new thread for everything you want assistance with and the community/EUKhost here will help you out.