Firefox vs IE (oh please!) - UK Web Hosting | Dedicated Server Windows and Linux VPS Forum

**DPS Computing** · #1 (**permalink**) 04-06-2007, 20:09

Seen as though we were "kicked" off the other topic (can I appeal lol

) I have started this topic like Thomas suggested - although I didn't see the harm in a little diversivication

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Firefox vs IE - oh please is there any need.

Its like Polar Bear v Ant.

IE doesn't particually annoy me apart from its security issues, constant bugs and other annoyances (so maybe it does annoy me then?

) If they just made it secure!

And for the record - I would not have bitched fighted about the browsers - I don't like anything from Microsoft - its indiscrimiate disliking

lol

**WelshTom** · #2 (**permalink**) 04-06-2007, 20:12

I'm not going to participate in this topic anyway :P Since I'll probably get really pi**ed off with all the lies about IE - lol.

David, I added you on MSN btw.

**DPS Computing** · #3 (**permalink**) 04-06-2007, 20:14

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Originally Posted by Thomas

I'm not going to participate in this topic anyway :P Since I'll probably get really pi**ed off with all the lies about IE - lol.

David, I added you on MSN btw.

Cool, I will log on in a sec.

I wont annoy you Thomas - I don't lie about IE. I like it, it is very like Firefox but firefox seem to take feedback and listen and incorporate little changes more willing than MS (probably because MS don't need to listen anymore as their top of the browser wars where as Firefox needs to keep anyone they can get).

And even you have to admit that IE has more security vulnerability than Firefox.

If I point out something incorrect about IE I am happy to correct it.

PS. You've just participated Thomas!

**jc8654** · #4 (**permalink**) 04-06-2007, 20:28

Well, I still using IE 7. I prefered firefox when it was IE 6 but I like the way IE 7 is set out. It also looks really good in Vista. I just find firefox a bit clunky when you see it side by side with IE 7 on Vista.

And I only got Vista as it came on my new laptop! I wasn't planning on getting it for another few months!

**flesso** · #5 (**permalink**) 04-06-2007, 20:30

IE is the biggest load of sh*t since Big Brother (sorry to all you fans, it's just not my cuppa tea). I love Firefox because of all the plugins - a nice variety.

As a web developer & designer, I wish that all browsers could stick to some sort of standards for web pages, so that you make one page and it works with all browsers, you normally have to do css 'hacks' to get ya stuff to display right in IE.

**jc8654** · #6 (**permalink**) 04-06-2007, 20:32

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Originally Posted by flesso

I wish that all browsers could stick to some sort of standards for web pages, so that you make one page and it works with all browsers, you normally have to do css 'hacks' to get ya stuff to display right in IE.

Tell me about it. It's like the thing with the gif's we were just discussing. Firefox plays them alot faster than IE so you end up with things flying stupidly in firefox or really slowly in IE.

**DPS Computing** · #7 (**permalink**) 04-06-2007, 20:40

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Originally Posted by flesso

IE is the biggest load of sh*t since Big Brother

hehehehehehehehehehehe. That really made me laugh.

Can we have that as "eUKhost Forum Quote Of The Day?"

**WelshTom** · #8 (**permalink**) 04-06-2007, 20:42

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Can we have that as "eUKhost Forum Quote Of The Day?"

I second that

**DPS Computing** · #9 (**permalink**) 04-06-2007, 20:44

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Originally Posted by Thomas

I second that

Motion passed

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I think it should be made a forum announcement or put on the front page now

**esnail** · #10 (**permalink**) 04-06-2007, 22:17

Firefox does stick to web standards - IE doesn't - and although IE7 is much improved over ie6 there are still too many hacks needed to render a standards compliant web page close to how it should look. Microsoft is now beginning to take web standards seriously and is striving to create their next browser as a secure standards compliant effort - even recruiting Molly E. Holzschlag to ensure that its development adheres as closely as possible to web standards. Unfortunately IE has to be backwards compliant to some extent with the rendering of its past browsers and with Microsoft software generated HTML (i.e. FrontPage) - which is not always the best written, so it's gonna be a tricky task for them - but in fairness, Microsoft is making an effort.
I test all of my website hostings in Firefox primarily, then in IE7, IE6, Opera and Safari - if I can I also check them in Konquerer but if they work in all others they should work in that. I'm tending to test in IE 5.5 less and less these days.

**DPS Computing** · #11 (**permalink**) 05-06-2007, 18:38

Yes, IE doesn't stick to the web standards because it is trying to clone all technologies (MySQL to MSSQL etc) but in doing so doesn't care breaking the standards to make it look better.

And Frontpage HTML - now that is a joke - it can't even write semi complient nearly valid HTML even on a short simple page!! For a start it inludes meta data in the head tags that produce the error "this attribute is not support nor is defined by the W3C".

I still use IE sometimes and used to use it all the time - I gradually am going over to firefox mainly because it is fast and crashes less with stupid errors!!

And, Thomas, in your comment from the other thread yes you could look at the source, but that just proves my point. You cant look at IEs source and it still gets the crap kicked out of it. Firefox you can look at the source and it happens so much less.

The best thing is the moderators are now having little edit wars in the other closed thread! lol ("Animated Gifs Faster In Firefox). I think its unfair to close a thread and then to have little edit wars in it - we should all be allowed to comment on it!! Geeze, what happened to "Free Speech"!!

**flesso** · #12 (**permalink**) 05-06-2007, 18:56

DPS, theres no edit war going on in the other thread, though I can start one here if you want.

**DPS Computing** · #13 (**permalink**) 05-06-2007, 19:07

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Originally Posted by flesso

DPS, theres no edit war going on in the other thread, though I can start one here if you want.

No thanks, I like Free Speech on the eUKhost forum!

Sorry I must have misinterpreted "Last edited by Ben : Today at 11:26. Reason: Thomas, it's my opinion? "OPINION". I assumed that meant that the post had been edited by Tom and then restored by Ben or something like that! It sure sounds like that!

**flesso** · #14 (**permalink**) 05-06-2007, 19:12

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Originally Posted by DPS Computing

No thanks, I like Free Speech on the eUKhost forum!

Sorry I must have misinterpreted "Last edited by Ben : Today at 11:26. Reason: Thomas, it's my opinion? "OPINION". I assumed that meant that the post had been edited by Tom and then restored by Ben or something like that! It sure sounds like that!

I was only kidding.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion on things.

**DPS Computing** · #15 (**permalink**) 05-06-2007, 19:14

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Originally Posted by flesso

I was only kidding.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion on things.

Oh right, I know but it sounds like everyones posts were getting edited.

And we did have our thread closed so we can't talk about the comments made by the mods since its closure!