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15-11-2007, 16:13
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Both great players. Best was full of himself and ruined the end of his career.
Used to love Pele too, till he recently said he wants defensive walls to be outlawed in football! What a pansy thing to say!
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Yes the thing about the defensive walls seems very strange lol. The thing that annoyed me the most is the fact he constantly went on TV like This Morning and said "I'm not drinking" then he goes in hospital and dies of multiple organ failure caused by drinking. Its a joke!
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16-11-2007, 07:20
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George Best - An Enigma , A Flawed Genius . . .
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16-11-2007, 14:29
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His son seems to be living well leeching off of his fame though.
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16-11-2007, 17:35
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His son seems to be living well leeching off of his fame though.
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Well he's only following the example of his ex wife lol 
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01-12-2007, 16:02
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liverpool broken again today.
Need to invest in a new pair of shoelaces maybe?
win11.eukdns.com returned (NORECORDS)
win12.eukdns.com returned (NORECORDS)
Ticket submitted - again we wait - Once again emails are lost, delayed, returned... Having to revert to gmail and (dare I say) yahoo mail - both free services. Thinking why am I paying for something when the free versions are so much better????
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01-12-2007, 19:07
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liverpool broken again today.
Need to invest in a new pair of shoelaces maybe?
win11.eukdns.com returned (NORECORDS)
win12.eukdns.com returned (NORECORDS)
Ticket submitted - again we wait - Once again emails are lost, delayed, returned... Having to revert to gmail and (dare I say) yahoo mail - both free services. Thinking why am I paying for something when the free versions are so much better????
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There's nothing wrong with DNS of Liverpool. please check http://private.dnsstuff.com/tools/dn...nter****.co.uk for more information.
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01-12-2007, 19:37
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At the time that I posted THERE WAS something wrong with Liverpool. Or at leat with my domain.
The entries in my previous post were pasted directly from the OpenDNS error page that I received when I tried to access my site earlier - 3 hours before your post.
It's really not helpful for eukhost to be so defensive - "nothing wrong here - must be your fault". - Especially so long after the original post!
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01-12-2007, 20:08
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Mark,
At the time that I posted THERE WAS something wrong with Liverpool. Or at leat with my domain.
The entries in my previous post were pasted directly from the OpenDNS error page that I received when I tried to access my site earlier - 3 hours before your post.
It's really not helpful for eukhost to be so defensive - "nothing wrong here - must be your fault". - Especially so long after the original post!
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Our Support Staff answers forum threads only once they are done with chats and tickets. We've never advertised our forum to be our main support center. Forum is mostly used by members to discuss coding related things and other technical questions which may get some assistance from other customers with similar requirements.
We will remove "Technical Support" forum soon as it seems to be used for ranting rather than discussion.
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01-12-2007, 20:19
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What's that got to do with it? I Posted the error messages from OpenDNS INTO A TICKET BEFORE I posted on this forum.
I mentioned absolutely NOTHING about support staff answering forum posts AT ALL in these posts. The 3 hours remark related to the fact that you were saying that there was nothing wrong with liverpool - and you were checking liverpool 3 hours AFTER I'd SUBMITTED A TICKET.
Again, you're getting very, very defensive, aren't you?
Why is my crtitcism of your posts considered ranting?
Sure, close the Technical Support forums - that always works doesn't it? Solve the problems by silencing the critics!
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01-12-2007, 20:24
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What's that got to do with it? I Posted the error messages from OpenDNS INTO A TICKET BEFORE I posted on this forum.
I mentioned absolutely NOTHING about support staff answering forum posts AT ALL in these posts. The 3 hours remark related to the fact that you were saying that there was nothing wrong with liverpool - and you were checking liverpool 3 hours AFTER I'd SUBMITTED A TICKET.
Again, you're getting very, very defensive, aren't you?
Why is my crtitcism of your posts considered ranting?
Sure, close the Technical Support forums - that always works doesn't it? Solve the problems by silencing the critics!
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I have monitoring logs which show that there was absolutely nothing wrong with DNS service on Liverpool. It was your domain only which had problem and it must have been due to plesk automatic update which didn't like those TXT records. I've had a word with Martin and he said he had no clue why those records were accepted last week and why plesk said no to those this week.
He did what was required for your website last week and again this time he did what was needed to make your website work without DNS errors.
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01-12-2007, 20:33
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As per my post in the other thread, I'll stay put for 2 days - But the core problem here is that it's eukhost's job to understand why these things happen. You may not always know exactly why things go wrong, but for the services that you provide as part of your core business activity to repeatedly fail, and your only answer is "no clue" is not very good procedure.
As I've said elsewhere, eukhost seem to be continually firefighting - rushing to sort a problem here, only to create another on the way to the scene, only to then break something else on the way back.
It's not a good way to run a business. Even if you actually are firemen!

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01-12-2007, 20:56
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As per my post in the other thread, I'll stay put for 2 days - But the core problem here is that it's eukhost's job to understand why these things happen. You may not always know exactly why things go wrong, but for the services that you provide as part of your core business activity to repeatedly fail, and your only answer is "no clue" is not very good procedure.
As I've said elsewhere, eukhost seem to be continually firefighting - rushing to sort a problem here, only to create another on the way to the scene, only to then break something else on the way back.
It's not a good way to run a business. Even if you actually are firemen!

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There is no way for us to monitor every single website hosted on our servers. We monitor services and if any service goes down then we take steps immediately. In this case plesk update messed up your domains zone file as it had custom TXT records and no one could have made any predictions that this could happen.
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02-12-2007, 11:00
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Our Support Staff answers forum threads only once they are done with chats and tickets. We've never advertised our forum to be our main support center. Forum is mostly used by members to discuss coding related things and other technical questions which may get some assistance from other customers with similar requirements.
We will remove "Technical Support" forum soon as it seems to be used for ranting rather than discussion.
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At risk of thread hi-jacking (this may be better split into a separate thread) I would prefer that forum remained as at times it can be handy. However I think it would be better if it was re-named "Shared Hosting", as since it was set up additional forums were created for reseller + VPS + dedicated. Re-naming it might also remove some confusion as it no longer suggests its the place to go for technical help (though a pinned topic pointing to LiveChat & Tickets might be useful) and help get people to post in the most appropriate thread. On a related note the 'PHP' and 'MySQL' perhaps could do with losing the "Hosting" bit off the forum names.
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02-12-2007, 12:36
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At risk of thread hi-jacking (this may be better split into a separate thread) I would prefer that forum remained as at times it can be handy. However I think it would be better if it was re-named "Shared Hosting", as since it was set up additional forums were created for reseller + VPS + dedicated. Re-naming it might also remove some confusion as it no longer suggests its the place to go for technical help (though a pinned topic pointing to LiveChat & Tickets might be useful) and help get people to post in the most appropriate thread. On a related note the 'PHP' and 'MySQL' perhaps could do with losing the "Hosting" bit off the forum names.
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please check and let me know if it looks good now 
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02-12-2007, 13:16
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I wonder if the first four forums in technical support...
- Linux cPanel Shared Hosting
- Windows Plesk Shared Hosting
- cPanel - WHM Reseller Hosting
- Windows Plesk Reseller Hosting
...would be better renamed as...
- Linux Shared Hosting (cPanel)
- Windows Shared Hosting (Plesk)
- Linux Reseller Hosting (cPanel/WHM)
- Windows Reseller Hosting (Plesk)
...as personally I find the titles a bit messy sounding, and slightly confusing on the eye. The other forums in this section seem fairly clear and self-explanitory.
Finally (for now) I wonder whether the 'eUKhost Hosting Services' forum has become slightly obsolete. At a quick glance many of the topics would be (better) suited to other forums such as pre-sales, testimonial, and linux shared hosting.
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02-12-2007, 13:23
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There is no way for us to monitor every single website hosted on our servers. We monitor services and if any service goes down then we take steps immediately. In this case plesk update messed up your domains zone file as it had custom TXT records and no one could have made any predictions that this could happen.
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Fair enough - I totally understand that nobody can entirely predict what will happen with technology.
However, my point remains that you implemented a custom TXT record to solve a problem, that implementation caused another problem, and so you just remove the TXT record without any analysis of what went wrong and why.
As I've said before, this is reactive firefighting, not effective network management.
Anyway, I'm done now. You're correct that these forums are no place to discuss technical problems. I waste enough of my time trying to determine what's gone wrong next without having to go around in circles here. From now on, you'll be pleased to hear, I'll be taking Thomas's honourable route and not posting here anymore.
The next time I have a problem, then it will be tickets only. And the next time I get a ticket that says "nothing wrong here" or "please give us the username and password of the mailbox" (regardless of the nature of the problem), then I'll close my account immediately without further discussion.
My recent experience suggests that day will not be long in coming!
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02-12-2007, 14:45
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Originally Posted by Eidolon
I wonder if the first four forums in technical support...
- Linux cPanel Shared Hosting
- Windows Plesk Shared Hosting
- cPanel - WHM Reseller Hosting
- Windows Plesk Reseller Hosting
...would be better renamed as...
- Linux Shared Hosting (cPanel)
- Windows Shared Hosting (Plesk)
- Linux Reseller Hosting (cPanel/WHM)
- Windows Reseller Hosting (Plesk)
...as personally I find the titles a bit messy sounding, and slightly confusing on the eye. The other forums in this section seem fairly clear and self-explanitory.
Finally (for now) I wonder whether the 'eUKhost Hosting Services' forum has become slightly obsolete. At a quick glance many of the topics would be (better) suited to other forums such as pre-sales, testimonial, and linux shared hosting.
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done. Technical Support forum is sorted now but I need some time to sort "eUKhost Hosting Services" forum as it has many threads which should belong to all different categories.
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02-12-2007, 15:00
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The next time I have a problem, then it will be tickets only. And the next time I get a ticket that says "nothing wrong here" or "please give us the username and password of the mailbox" (regardless of the nature of the problem)
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Thats the only reason I keep on saying "We are improving and we will keep on improving". If you don't complain then who else should we expect to find our shortcomings ?
Our staff member who replied to that ticket has completely changed now and no other staff member has repeated such mistake from last 2 months. Your feedback is helpful and we have always appreciated it 
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02-12-2007, 19:44
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We will remove "Technical Support" forum soon as it seems to be used for ranting rather than discussion.
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Apologies for jumping straight into this thread, but please do not go down this route and remove the Tech Support section of the forum.
I feel that would be a backwards move guys, and would implore you think seriously about this before doing so.
Yes, support tickets need to be opened for tech issue, but a hosting company without a tech support section of a forum would be a bad move, IMHO, and I'm sure I'm not the only one to think this. 
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02-12-2007, 19:59
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Apologies for jumping straight into this thread, but please do not go down this route and remove the Tech Support section of the forum.
I feel that would be a backwards move guys, and would implore you think seriously about this before doing so.
Yes, support tickets need to be opened for tech issue, but a hosting company without a tech support section of a forum would be a bad move, IMHO, and I'm sure I'm not the only one to think this. 
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There are now the individual categories if you need any technical help. It should help make the forum a little more organised.
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